I was inspired by this thought, “If you shine light into a box and then close the lid, do you still have light. No, you have darkness rather than light.” Unless you have the source of light in the box you have no light. I had to think how many times people take what they perceive to be truth and light and metaphorically put it into their own box. So often we find their light no longer shines. Our prompt for d’Verse~Poetry Pub is take a word and use it symbolically to mean something else. I chose the word Light; This is a painting I finished last weekend that I called Capturing Light.
Capturing Light
Ever try capturing light in a box
Close the lid tightly to contain it
Light in a box is a paradox
There’s no source there to maintain it
As you snap the lid shut
Think you have it at last
The rays disappear in an instant
For rays alone do not make light
With rays there’s no way save them
For light you see of every kind
From Rabbi, priest, or committee
Does not come from their simple minds
It comes from a source that’s emitting
Reflecting is all we can ever do
Our creator’s the source of our light
When it comes right down to me and to you
The best we can do is to shine bright
Light is not something to capture and hold
Thinking surely we can improve it
How disappointed we will be
Finding blackness boxed up all through it
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Painting: Dwight L. Roth
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apparently they apparently are able to capture photons now. Light is so important. Love is so important. No theology can capture it, no one’s god.
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Thank you for reading. But oh how they try!
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lessons we never seem to learn. Thanks!
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I almost chose light for my symbol but went very dark instead. I once wrote a poem “light is only a degree of darkness.” Light comes from within an open mind, perhaps. We live in so much mystery. I try to live according to my faith/light but can never/would never discount the point of view of others. so much mystery.
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Thanks for your great reply. Light has so many angles that one could follow. I had done this painting last week and was hoping to use it sometime. The was the time.
Dwight
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Interesting idea about trying to hold light in a box. I don’t what that would involve, but having a source makes sense.
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I f you put a candle in it that would change the whole picture but keep the same premise.
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Beautiful poem and painting. Thanks for sharing!
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I concur!
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Thanks!!
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Thank you Joy!
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Love this poem! Let your light shine!
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Thank you Mary.
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Wise words! Love the painting.
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Thank you so much!
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Beautifully written. I enjoyed reading this poem. You can’t capture what is meant to roam free. 🙂
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That is true. This was my intent in writing this poem. Also that light needs a source, which is different with different perspectives.
Thank You!
Dwight
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Words to think about…
But I would worry that your words appear to propose that those without set beliefs (such as I) exist in a state of eternal darkness…
I think I shine quite brightly, but perhaps I am misunderstanding your definition of light?
Anna :o]
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Thanks Anna, for your thoughtful comment. I am sharing from my personal point of view. My intent is not to judge others although I can see how it may appear that way. Thanks for your challenge.
Dwight
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So what happens when your light finally burns out and is gone?
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Then I am gone Dwight.
I grew up in a religious household so it is not that I have been isolated from it. But I was never able to see the light you see – far from it.
However we, in our own thoughts and beliefs, have elevated ourselves to just below the status of a ‘God’ we remain as we are a predator species. We might not think we are not as we buy our pre-packed meat from the supermarket, far removed from the actual killing, but we consume it without thought. We are predators, the top of a particular food chain.
And that is the animal kingdom we exist in. We are animals whether we like the idea of it or not. Look around the world and see the evil we do, this often in the name of our ‘God.’ (This evil does elevate us from other animal forms, but it is an awful elevation.) It is all about our particular view on survival, although these views will eventually be the end of us, as we pursue the notion that only our beliefs are just.
So I do not see the light in a distant ‘God’, but there is a light in me. I (believe) I am more of what we define as ‘human’ than many who seek their ‘God’ for forgiveness of their sins, often awful wrongs.
That is my belief Dwight; although I would never deny others their belief or try and convince them they were wrong, even though I might believe they are.
My belief, my dearest hope, is that one day all humans might be good. But it is an impossible dream, but nevertheless, I dream…
The kindest of regards
Anna :o]
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Thank you Anna for you great response to my question. I also have grown up being taught that God exists and has a hand in what takes place through out the universe.
To me the light that you speak of coming from within yourself is an outflowing of God’s grace in my life as exemplified in Jesus Christ. You are right when you say Religion has been the source of some of the worst offenses, which brings me to my painting and poem. When we put our beliefs in a box that we create it soon loses the light of God because, as you also have said we have elevated ourselves to become as God, knowing good an evil. I believe we can only reach the impossible goal you referred to as your dream, when we reflect the spirit of God’s love in our hearts and actions. Without that we simply remain as animals on top of the food chain. I believe God is Love and though your dream of a peaceful world probably will never come about, we can show that love one person at a time to each other, hopefully making a difference and making the world a better place for our children and grandchildren.
I believe you do see the light I see, which you refer to as your impossible dream
Thank you so much for your response.
Dwight
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Cheers for your welcome response to my response Dwight!
I would beg to differ re your belief that the light (I see in myself) is an outflowing of Gods grace for that would mean that (my) childhood innocence was not an entity in itself, rather something gifted by God. In my innocence I willingly allowed my parents to raise me in their faith, yet I found I could not believe. But ‘God’ remains in me although I don’t accept his existence?
But the bible would suggest we are born with original sin. Rather than several quotes I would direct you here: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-is-the-biblical-evidence-for-original-sin I would love to discuss points therein with you further, but my brain is not alive enough as it is nearing midnight.
I would be quite happy to discuss with you further, in an effort for us to gain knowledge and understanding of our own particular beliefs, and this not being an effort to change said beliefs.
You are under no obligation to do so, but if you wish to, my email is: mdtmayhem@gmail.com
More kind regards!
Anna :o]
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Thank You for your willingness to dialogue. I will be in touch with you further.
Dwight
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Anna & Dwight — If you might forgive my brief intrusion into your dialogue, I’d like to note (because Anna might find it interesting), that while Judaism and Christianity have some books in common, Judaism does not include a concept of “original sin.” We were born innocent, and being childlike and innocent is our truest nature, because then we approach life with wide-eyed awe and fear of “that which is greater” than us… and there are many differing views about the exact nature of the “that which is greater.”
Not trying to change opinions, just sharing information. Wishing you both a very lovely week, jen
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Thanks Jen, you are not intruding in any way. Your insights are well worth considering in the discussion. This is a blog an open to all who care to give input. Christianity has a couple differing views on this. Some groups like the Catholic church baptizes infants because they believe the child is born with original sin whether it know that or not. Other groups believe in innocence until the age of accountability when they make the choice to accept or not accept what they have been taught. I would tend to believe the latter which is what you say is practiced in Judaism. Thank you for entering into the discussion.
Dwight
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Thank you, Dwight. By the way, do you sell your paintings? jen
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I do sell them. I have a few in a local co-op and I sell them to anyone else who is interested. I also give some away to friends and family.
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I have not sold them on line, since I feel photos tend to give a much brighter presentation than the actual painting.
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Interesting. I was just curious because I really like the “light” painting featured in the post. Reminds me of the idea that to truly shine, we must open ourselves to life. But I also see how it is what you intended, that we lose the light if we try to capture it. Anyway, great painting!
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Thank you so much for asking. I would be happy to sell it to you if you are interested and within shipping ability. Where are you located. I did this one on Masonite board and it is in a recycled antiquated frame from the Restore. For you $35 plus shipping. If you are interested let me know.
Dwight
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Sorry for my delay, Dwight. I am interested. Can you please email me, and then we can work out the details. Thanks! jen
jenwarriner@gmail.com
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I will email you… Thanks.
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Light as in enlightenment generally means the opposite of obscurantism. I’m with Anna. My little light shines from me, not as the reflection of something I don’t believe in. A lot of food for thought (and discussion) in your poem, Dwight 🙂
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I see your point of view. I guess a lot comes from our perspective of life. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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It does. And we’re lucky that we can express our differences without being clapped in jail…so far…
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I welcome different opinions! Feel free to differ or challenge what I write. I don’t mind. I love a good discussion.
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I come from a background where arguing about anything but especially anything controversial was the norm. I know it’s not the norm in every culture and that in the US people often feel offended by views that don’t fit their religious beliefs. Since debunking religious myths is one of my favourite sports, I sometimes feel you people aren’t much fun 🙂
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Bring it on! I love it… maybe we will both learn something.
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I’ll remember that next time I have a rant 🙂
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Thanks Jane. I value your opinion!
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That’s a huge compliment 🙂
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You are welcome. I love reading your posts.
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Thank you! I’m pleased 🙂
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in your painting I see an open lid with light pouring out – but looking again I can also see an eye. We do not always recognise light so maybe that is when ‘Light in a box is a paradox’ gorgeous lines
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Thanks, Laura. I appreciate your comments. I did not think about an eye, but I see how you could think that. Thanks for reading.
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Very good, very nice read, I enjoyed it so I am going to reblog it for you.
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Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
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Reblogged this on Truth Troubles.
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I really like how you expanded the concept. We should all know this by now… but humans are forever learning, Great painting and your poem nailed it. I’m sending your post to my kids and their friends. If the young understand this….. we’ll have a chance of a better future.
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Thank you Vivian. I am glad you found meaning in the poem and the painting. I believe it really is not all about us.
Dwight
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So true.
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True… caged freedom never shines.
But still the caged bird sings
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Only because he does not know any better!? Freedom brings true expression of the soul!
Dwight
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I thought about the poem by Maya Angelou https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48989/caged-bird
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Very good Bjorn. This is a very beautiful poem and expresses both sides very will. All of us having or searching for freedom of expression.
Thanks,
Dwight
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In your vivid painting, I see all the horrors escaping from Pandora’s box, but perhaps that’s just my inner pessimist shining through.
I like the structure and pacing of your poem. I’m not an atheist, but I’m not religious either. I respect the source of your light, even though I probably won’t feel it for myself.
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Thank you Barry for your analytical response. I thought perhaps it might look that way as well. Perhaps when we box up our Truth and Light into a rigid box it becomes a Pandora of sorts.
Thank you for reading and thinking about what I attempted to share.
Dwight
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Love the painting and the poem.
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Dwight, I appreciate your poem. And your painting.
I’ll say only that the idea of merely reflecting is shy of what I read and I know. If the light is within us, having been (born into, placed… you fill in the blank as you see fit), then how can we only reflect? Not an argument, just casting seeds… and not of doubt. 🙂
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Thanks Charley for you thought provoking reply. Something to think about!
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Then my job is done… for now.
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Thank you so much for thinking of me. I will check it out and see what I can do.
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great post we need more
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